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 Posted: Saturday, July 5th 2008 12:52 pm Post subject: a review of the dior homme fall 08/09 show |
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agoodflyingbird
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| Posted: Saturday, July 5th 2008 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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is this a joke? is LPN becoming a fashion criticism website?
it's hard to find scraps of tim rogers prose on even actionbutton anymore. fuck this noise. |
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eden
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| Posted: Sunday, July 6th 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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| Man, if you wanna give Tim a blowjob you should go somewhere else! |
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TheMostGorgeousSituation
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| Posted: Sunday, July 6th 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Man, if you expect people to take interest in your shitty creative writing exercises you should go somewhere else! |
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digi
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| Posted: Sunday, July 6th 2008 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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Man! Good thing I'm not paying for this! I mean, jeez!
I mean, god forbid I dwell on anything not somehow connected to the accepted 108 canon.
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eden
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| Posted: Sunday, July 6th 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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"TheMostGorgeousSituation": Well you know, tim does. (and I'm not a man :P )
Anyway, digi said it all.
It's my writing, some people like it. I was asked by tim to write about fashion here. So there we go. Not like you have to read it! |
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agoodflyingbird
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| Posted: Sunday, July 6th 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| i would be fine with the occasional fashion post on the official site of the "108 canon" if there were still any updates to the "108 canon" being made here. it's been one post the entire year...if there's been official change of direction to "Fashion Website," i'd appreciate a heads-up, so i could delete my RSS subscription. |
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matthew
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| Posted: Sunday, July 6th 2008 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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| hey maybe you should delete your forum account while you're at too. |
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agoodflyingbird
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| Posted: Sunday, July 6th 2008 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| matthew wrote: | | hey maybe you should delete your forum account while you're at too. |
if it were announced that this is now a fashion website, i wouldn't have to...i just wouldn't visit anymore. get it? |
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matthew
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| Posted: Monday, July 7th 2008 3:45 am Post subject: |
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| are you secretly ugly and/or poor? is that why you hate fashion so much? |
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digi
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| Posted: Monday, July 7th 2008 6:56 am Post subject: |
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I think the fact that Tim is even keeping this site going anymore is kind of indicative of him wanting to do something with it. For instance, Joe doesn't really post anymore, yet he filled the role of music reviewer pretty well while he did. I'm not really sure why I still check LPN regularly, yet it's nice to see people doing something with the, uh, "venue."
His thing is ABDN now, yeah? There's your little sneak peek into his life, or whatever bits of it he'll feel the compulsion to write about. If you're sick enough with starvation for it, anyway.
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agoodflyingbird
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| Posted: Monday, July 7th 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| matthew wrote: | | are you secretly ugly and/or poor? is that why you hate fashion so much? |
as douchey as this will make me sound, i have nothing against fashion; i am not very invested in it myself, yet my girlfriend is a model, so i absorb a fair amount of it through osmosis (much more than i would otherwise). if that doesn't answer your question, i am not ugly, and while i could use more money, i wouldn't say i'm poor.
there is certainly some truth to be found in the words of "dedicated follower of fashion" by the kinks, though.
i just miss when we used to get almost regular insight into tim's life (and wonderful prose). at this point, it seems like he's given up on this site and doesn't really care where his contributors direct it anymore ― if tim's completely checked out, i think those who still keep a light on for him deserve a memo. |
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eden
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| Posted: Monday, July 7th 2008 11:11 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | there is certainly some truth to be found in the words of "dedicated follower of fashion" by the kinks, though. |
I've always wondered how one can be a follower of fashion. Fashion IS the now, and you or anybody else is part of the now anyway. You are "in fashion" because you have no choice!
To paraphrase Chanel "fashion is the air we breath". So I'm really just writing about the times.
If you think that fashion is about "fads and trends" (as the song will have you think), you are wrong. They're inherently a part of it, of course. yet as I said above, fashion is "the now", and that is everything. Not just one tiny niche. |
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agoodflyingbird
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| Posted: Monday, July 7th 2008 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| eden wrote: | | Quote: | | there is certainly some truth to be found in the words of "dedicated follower of fashion" by the kinks, though. |
I've always wondered how one can be a follower of fashion. Fashion IS the now, and you or anybody else is part of the now anyway. You are "in fashion" because you have no choice!
To paraphrase Chanel "fashion is the air we breath". So I'm really just writing about the times.
If you think that fashion is about "fads and trends" (as the song will have you think), you are wrong. They're inherently a part of it, of course. yet as I said above, fashion is "the now", and that is everything. Not just one tiny niche. |
you think the fashion trends of any given runway represents the going-ons in the world? all of it? really?
Chanel ads sell product; wise proverbs, they are not. |
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eden
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| Posted: Monday, July 7th 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Hang on a moment, I didnt say anything about fashion trends on runways,
Here's the full quote:
"Fashion is not simply a matter of clothes.
Fashion is in the air, born upon the wind.
One intuits it. It is in the sky and on the road."
It's not an ad, it's a quote from Coco Chanel.. Never been used in a Chanel ad. |
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agoodflyingbird
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| Posted: Monday, July 7th 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| eden wrote: | Hang on a moment, I didnt say anything about fashion trends on runways,
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perhaps i misunderstood? please clarify, then, what you are talking about. |
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eden
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| Posted: Tuesday, July 8th 2008 6:16 am Post subject: |
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I really mean the fashion in the quote: to repeat is:
"Fashion is not simply a matter of clothes.
Fashion is in the air, born upon the wind.
One intuits it. It is in the sky and on the road."
Fashion on runways is a very small part of all this, I feel. Same with trends. They're all part of fashion, yet not the whole thing. Fashion is simple "the now"- right this second- everything that is happening. And clothes are simply a manifestation of fashion AKA "the now". |
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agoodflyingbird
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| Posted: Tuesday, July 8th 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| eden wrote: | I really mean the fashion in the quote: to repeat is:
"Fashion is not simply a matter of clothes.
Fashion is in the air, born upon the wind.
One intuits it. It is in the sky and on the road."
Fashion on runways is a very small part of all this, I feel. Same with trends. They're all part of fashion, yet not the whole thing. Fashion is simple "the now"- right this second- everything that is happening. And clothes are simply a manifestation of fashion AKA "the now". |
repeating that pretentious quote won't help you from being incredibly vague. as far as i can tell, your undefined use of words like "the now" and "the times" suggests you think fashion encompasses "everything that is happening" in the world, which is a really broad statement to make ― one that definitely credits fashion trends with more influence and power than they can exert (please tell me how or why a population like, say, that of africa, cares about the new marc jacob's line? or whatever it is in fashion that you find so omnipresent). and while you're at it, would you mind explaining why you try to make a distinction between "fashion" and "fashion trends?" fashion is in season, then it's out of season ― trends. |
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Phat
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| Posted: Tuesday, July 8th 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| TheMostGorgeousSituation wrote: | | Man, if you expect people to take interest in your shitty creative writing exercises you should go somewhere else! |
Hilarious! |
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eden
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| Posted: Tuesday, July 8th 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Once more, from the top.
| Quote: | | you think fashion encompasses "everything that is happening" in the world, which is a really broad statement to make ― one that definitely credits fashion trends with more influence and power than they can exert (please tell me how or why a population like, say, that of africa, cares about the new marc jacob's line? or whatever it is in fashion that you find so omnipresent). |
Yes to the first part. Fashion is everything that is happening. yet you need to take away the idea that fashion is just runway shows and clothing lines.
So really- Africa does not care about the new Marc Jacobs line, yet I'm sure there's fashions in Africa- too. They might not come from runway shows, or even clothing lines yet to use this definition of fashion- "a currently accepted or popular style related to a cultural aspect such as manners or in a given field such as apparel, accessories", or even "manner: how something is done or how it happens; "her dignified manner"; "his rapid manner of talking"; "their nomadic mode of existence"; "in the ..."...there has to be some fashion happening.
So I find that fashion is omnipresent because there's always some sort of fashion happening. Again, I'm not talking about just runways.
| Quote: | | ould you mind explaining why you try to make a distinction between "fashion" and "fashion trends?" fashion is in season, then it's out of season ― trends. |
My bad!
Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that fashion is not just on runways or in America. It's just incredibly diverse and everywhere. I honestly can't think of any culture that doesn't have fashion. |
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agoodflyingbird
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| Posted: Wednesday, July 9th 2008 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| of course every country/community has a "fashion" of some kind. yet you can't make your definition of fashion so broad, then apply that importance to something really specific (i.e., what this discussion began about: a dior fashion show). |
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eden
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| Posted: Wednesday, July 9th 2008 6:39 am Post subject: |
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Indeed. I just wrote about a tiny part of fashion, In this case, the dior homme fashion show is pretty important to "All Of Menswear" considering that's where everyone- from the cheap stores to high street retailers to other designers- takes their menswear cues from.
The whole razor-thin trend (skinny jeans, etc) came in as a result of dior homme.
The article is about how dior homme has lost it's mojo, I guess. |
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Cocaine Socialist
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| Posted: Wednesday, July 9th 2008 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| Eden, as a man of fashion I appreciate your posts. |
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eden
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| Posted: Wednesday, July 9th 2008 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Thankyou! |
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Mr. Apol
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| agoodflyingbird wrote: | | matthew wrote: | | are you secretly ugly and/or poor? is that why you hate fashion so much? |
as douchey as this will make me sound, i have nothing against fashion; i am not very invested in it myself, yet my girlfriend is a model, so i absorb a fair amount of it through osmosis (much more than i would otherwise). if that doesn't answer your question, i am not ugly, and while i could use more money, i wouldn't say i'm poor.
there is certainly some truth to be found in the words of "dedicated follower of fashion" by the kinks, though.
i just miss when we used to get almost regular insight into tim's life (and wonderful prose). at this point, it seems like he's given up on this site and doesn't really care where his contributors direct it anymore ― if tim's completely checked out, i think those who still keep a light on for him deserve a memo. |
you know, when tim first asked me to write here, his exact instruction was to write whatever the fuck i wanted, once a week.
i never could keep that once a week thing going, and i've got other things going now, so i don't really post as often (at all).
so yeah. i (and all the other contributors) are doing nothing except what your darling Lord asked of us.
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| Posted: Thursday, July 24th 2008 4:53 am Post subject: |
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| matthew wrote: | | are you secretly ugly and/or poor? is that why you hate fashion so much? |
hahahahaha
Ok, has anybody listened to the Kama Boiler CD? Does it actually exist?
also, ABDN? |
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digi
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I indeed have. I even own a physical copy! The only other album of theirs I've seen for sale online was on amazon.jp, though. I have no idea how to work that shit.
ABDN is actionbutton.net if you're not in that loop yet
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Greggus1
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| Posted: Friday, July 25th 2008 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| digi wrote: | I indeed have. I even own a physical copy! The only other album of theirs I've seen for sale online was on amazon.jp, though. I have no idea how to work that shit.
ABDN is actionbutton.net if you're not in that loop yet |
oh, okay. Yeah, I checked that out once.
And though I do appreciate the speedy and detailed reply, you're making me do all the work here! How was the record? Should I buy it? |
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digi
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| Posted: Saturday, July 26th 2008 3:28 am Post subject: |
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I'm not a customer service rep, for god's sake. [Well, okay. I sort of am.] The record is pretty good. Somewhere between an EP and an LP by conventional standards, there's some poppy/country flavor stylings underneath the garage rock. I like the guy's voice. Should you pay the thirty-something bucks [that is usual for Japanese CD imports]? Hell if I know. I'm pretty happy with my copy, though.
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| Posted: Saturday, July 26th 2008 5:18 am Post subject: |
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Eh, unless Tim writes about it, I'll probably pass.
Okay, this is getting really obvious now. |
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digi
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| Posted: Saturday, July 26th 2008 6:57 am Post subject: |
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Yeah the last line in your previous post was something of a giveaway.
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Mr. Apol
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| Posted: Saturday, July 26th 2008 10:52 am Post subject: |
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| Greggus1 wrote: | Eh, unless Tim writes about it, I'll probably pass.
Okay, this is getting really obvious now. |
question: do you have the most gorgeous situation printed out and like have holes punched in it and put into a three ring binder you bought at walmart???
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Mr. Apol
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| Posted: Saturday, July 26th 2008 10:53 am Post subject: |
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you sound like a dude who would
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i would, yet i'm too cheap/environmentalist (yet really, cheap) to print the paper. so i read it on my computer, i'm still not done with it yet. i kind of read it whenever i feel like i'm at a crossroads in my life.
does this make me better/worse?
EDIT: hahaha at the yet wordfilter... hadn't noticed that one yet, |
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Mr. Apol
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| Posted: Monday, July 28th 2008 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Greggus1 wrote: | i would, yet i'm too cheap/environmentalist (yet really, cheap) to print the paper. so i read it on my computer, i'm still not done with it yet. i kind of read it whenever i feel like i'm at a crossroads in my life.
does this make me better/worse?
EDIT: hahaha at the yet wordfilter... hadn't noticed that one yet, |
as entertaining as tim's liverjournal given flesh/novel is at points, i'm pretty sure there's a lot more worthwhile pieces of fiction to be reading at crossroads in your life.
like, i don't know, read naked lunch or the stranger or catcher in the rye or something.
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digi
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| Posted: Monday, July 28th 2008 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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Norwegian Wood, even.
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hate the stranger
will look into naked lunch
have read and will read catcher in the rye
bought norwegian wood yesterday (It'll be hard to beat Kafka On the Shore, for me, or shit, anything else Murakami's ever written)
It's just that Tim and me have pretty similar life-stories (assuming most of it isn't fictionalized, and minus the not talking through most of childhood part (which - and no disrespect meant here - I do believe is partly fictionalized anyway)). |
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Mr. Apol
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i didn't have a foot until i was twelve can you relate to me????
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| no you son of a bitch |
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Phat
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Mr. Apol I can relate to you because we both have an appreciation for curios and various other antiques.
Right? |
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| do you think that uh i could maybe post a short story here? whoever is in charge? (tim, presumably). |
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sheesh i don't remember writing that.
dont consider that request!
strangely enough i heard coco chanel for the first time today on the radio.
i've recently started to think that you hear things all the time, yet until they make an impression, you ignore just ignore them. then you're surprised when you start seeing the thing all the time. |
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